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- in reply to: What does 'write tags in Metadata ' mean? #10955
TABBLEs are written to the TAGs collection in OFFICE documents (under INFO > Properties)
Thus the TAGs remain with the document whether the filename or location changes: through email, for instance.
{Scenario: you email a document to yourself from your laptop (with TABBLES) to your office computer (with a cloned TABBLES database).}
When this ‘renamed and/or relocated’ document is opened in TABBLES, you will see the TABBLES have remained, but ONLY THOSE TABBLES that coincide in both machines’ TABBLES database.
In other words, TAGS in OFFICE documents that are not in your TABBLES database still remain in the document, but a (new) TABBLE is NOT CREATED from the TAG name.
! this is as one would expect !in reply to: auto tagging not working #10931I think “show a pop-up” is part of auto-tagging
1) Make a new (or edit an old) Auto-tagging rule
2) fill out whatever in “When a file is created”
3) Choose (check) “show a popup which . . . ”
4) Do Not Choose “put the file in tabbles: ”should work
in reply to: How to backup/restore tabbles? #10928Thanks, Andrea
– What is the mechanism, then, to utilize the XML export >>> import
The format of the EXPORT XML seems to indicate that IMPORT will trigger a routine that actually overwrites the db and reinstates the exported environment.True?
OK – maybe it works now?
I’ve used SQL Server since version 7, but, still, please regard this ‘answer’ as slightly-educated guess (;
all should work OK (v.2008 is fine) – assuming the bugs are worked out (don’t install on the first day it comes out) I usually use the most recent version.
Management Studio gives you a UI to investigate/export/backup the database (I also use MS Access)
My logic: SQL server is used in many high-end implementations world-wide – the incremental upgrades are often useful, particularly from the Management Studio standpoint, and more and more bugs are killed (unfortunately some get added, too)
I use, presently, 64bit 2014 Express with Management Studio – what MS Downloads calls
( ExpressAdv 64BIT\SQLEXPRADV_x64_ENU.exe )I make sure to use all 64bit MS products on this machine, because there are incompatibilities with mixing Office versions, in some cases, and I value having MS Access on this machine, which allows me to manipulate SQL Server databases in a familiar Office UI type environment.
Irregular updates to SQL Server are sent out on Windows Update. It is likely that sometime after SQLSvr 2016 comes out, 2014 will get some updates rolled out.
Personally, I will stick with 2014 in this TABBLES environment for another year, probably.hope that helps
i tried to answer this question, but TABBLES forum timed out, and then gives an error – ‘you already posted this answer’. or some such ?!?!? when it obviously is NOT POSTED.
i’ll try again laterin reply to: how move file into a new tbale #10925i agree – the fastest way i can do using Keyboard and mouse is:
- select (click) file
- Ctrl-C
- select (click) TABBLE
- Ctrl-V <br>
(you now see new TABBLE)- select (click) file again
- Alt-V
click TABBLE at top, and “REMOVE” as usual
I’ve used SQL Server since version 7, but, still, please regard this ‘answer’ as slightly-educated guess (;
all should work OK (v.2008 is fine) – assuming the bugs are worked out (don’t install on the first day it comes out) I usually use the most recent version.
Management Studio gives you a UI to investigate/export/backup the database (I also use MS Access)
My logic: SQL server is used in many high-end implementations world-wide – the incremental upgrades are often useful, particularly from the Management Studio standpoint, and more and more bugs are killed (unfortunately some get added, too)
I use, presently, 64bit 2014 Express with Management Studio – what MS Downloads calls
( ExpressAdv 64BIT\SQLEXPRADV_x64_ENU.exe )I make sure to use all 64bit MS products on this machine, because there are incompatibilities with mixing Office versions, in some cases, and I value having MS Access on this machine, which allows me to manipulate SQL Server databases in a familiar Office UI type environment.
Irregular updates to SQL Server are sent out on Windows Update. It is likely that sometime after SQLSvr 2016 comes out, 2014 will get some updates rolled out.
Personally, I will stick with 2014 in this TABBLES environment for another year, probably.hope that helps
in reply to: I am confused #10923just found this from the Intro >> Longer Intro ( https://tabbles.net/what-is-it/whats-tabbles/ ) near the bottom of the page:
“Here, Tabbles helps you by displaying a list of the so-called combinable tabbles, i.e. the tabbles that can be intersected with the tabble you have chosen, producing a non-empty intersection.”in reply to: Delete Tabbles #10922YES – I did that too! . . . , until I (it) ‘clicked’
in reply to: Delete Tabbles #10920do you mean untag (untabble) a file?
Right-click (or Alt-V) gives you the “unTag this file”
REMOVE TABBLES Pop-Up box appears (as you say) and at top it states:
“Untag” name of your file
“Already In” list of tags that the file is inclick the tag (“Already In”) that you want to delete from file
the tag ‘pops’ to the bottom left of the dialog window
click “Remove” at bottom rightmaybe I don’t understand your question
in reply to: I am confused #10919Thee – I do like the nesting function, and I had to ‘untag’ many files that got automatically tagged with the Parent, then the child, then the child’s child. I didn’t want it so cluttered, so had to redo many TABBLES.
CAVEAT: be aware that I am a new user of TABBLES just trying to implement my own schema of Knowledge Management, i.e., ‘no expert’ at TABBLES.Nonetheless, using your first screenshot: (RSFO)
* notice that all the TABBLES listed (on right) are tagged RSFO, as expected, and 2 are of Acietes and 4 of Migasa – BOTH are subs of SPAIN, subs of Buyers, subs of Company.
I suggest you drag Acietes ‘into’ Iraq. Refresh (click Workspace) and then try clicking RSFO again. – See what results.
Then tag 1 of those Aceites files with “Caribsat” – Refresh – See what results.
Remove Aceites from the file you just tagged with “Caribsat” – Refresh – See what results.
I think that will explain it, but if not:
Then tag any 1 of those 6 files with “CDRO” – Refresh – See what results.
Then tag a different 1 of those 6 files with “Cement” – Refresh – See what results.I believe the TABBLES display routine (and only Maurizio knows for sure) tries to be efficient – to show the least possible necessary TABBLES. Sometimes the combination of Tabbles is such that it can seem inconsistent (and, in fact the routine may be random, but consistently so)
I tried a similar tagging/untagging routine on my own TABBLES setup – I was able to tag, nest, un-nest, untag, etc. several times with the same results.
Note that I found ‘refreshing’ necessary as the lag from my machine to SQL Server was sometimes quite slow (with over 250 TABBLES)let me know what you find out.
ciao
in reply to: Two Problems #10918HI – I actually had your second problem before I ever installed TABBLES – and this intermittently occurs still. When I reboot, it stays away for a while – the price of running a complex Windows installation (;
I did, at that time, have SQL Server installed, so I would highly discount a connection there, as I have installed SQL Server on many machines, both Win7 and Win8.
Since it sounds like you are an advanced user, I suppose you have already done a sfc /scannow . . . . (look it up, if you haven’t) And uninstalled TABBLES . . . ?If so, i’d venture a guess at video driver corruption.
cheers
in reply to: Folder Synchronization configuration ? #10917OK – thanks Maurizio:
that seems like a perfectly adequate resolution – thus one should use “Folder Synchronization” as an off-line data-backup routine. Off course, the database would have to be backed-up as well for this to work systematically.I would suggest that a ‘profile switch’ that allowed the viewing of / interacting with ‘DOMAINS’ (analogous to logical disks) could be useful, especially when one has MANY files/tabbles. This would have the positive side effect of speeding up UI access, particularly when one was BUILDING tabbles, rather than actively searching/researching through the TABBLES UI. For continuity, i’d guess that the best default profile would be, “SELECT ALL” disks when the TABBLES instance starts.
thanks again
in reply to: [question] About databases. #10868Theoretically it should be possible to use another ‘back-end’ – but, I would guess that it would require so many changes (‘stored-procedures’, application hooks, etc.) – too big a job for so little utility since, I believe, the core market for TABBLES is organizational network installations, where SQL Server may already be deployed.
What particular problem are you having installing SQL Server?
Most times, if your Windows system is fairly typical, it installs easily, although you do have to make choices along the installation path that can seem confusing.
Have you ever installed a recent ver. of Visual Studio on this machine?
If so, SQL Server should already have prerequisite components installed.
I’d try again with the most recent ver. SQL EXPRESS 2014
“Express with Tools (SQLEXPRWT) ”
Remember to “enable Sql authentication mode” (mixed mode – both windows auth. and SQL auth.)in reply to: Folder Synchronization configuration ? #10849thanks, MilusJunod – i was thinking, ‘i’m sure i must be doing something wrong!’ – but, as it stands, it doubles the number of files in the interface.
Still, though, i’m sure Maurizio was well aware of this implication, and must have intended a ‘write-only’ (not read) aspect of this quite useful (if fully implemented) feature.
In my case, it would be enough to not ‘read’ from the disk where the backup resides. In other words, don’t update the interface with the “files on disk K”
That would be another variable in the SELECT statement, and incur more overhead, but, of course, the “Folder Synchronization’ stored procedure is already (in my case) doubling the number of files tracked.thanks again for you response, MilusJunod
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