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mrdnaParticipantMay 9, 2010 at 4:13 amPost count: 220mrdnaParticipantMay 9, 2010 at 4:10 amPost count: 220
Just want to be sure this makes it on the ToDo list (like the single-click toggle idea). A damn good idea for us keyboard-centric folks.
As you’ve seen elsewhere I’m sure, KaptK, the big push right now is the network version so all else is pretty much just ToDo list fodder for the moment.mrdnaParticipantMay 9, 2010 at 3:56 amPost count: 220
Browse to the directory and sort by ‘files with fewer tabbles’. Un-tabbled files will be at the beginning of the file list. (actually, if the dir is tracked, or rather, not excluded, then the files will have an automatically assigned extension tabble)
To find files w/o a specific tabble I’d say browse to the folder and do a subtract (NOT) of the specific tabble.
That what ya need, JF?mrdnaParticipantApril 16, 2010 at 6:36 amPost count: 220mrdnaParticipantApril 15, 2010 at 5:21 amPost count: 220
"DrTeeth" wrote: I knew I had children for a reason; one is in primary edu and the other secondary school. My brother is a univerity lecturer anomgst other things.
When we were young folks had kids to have someone change the channels and answer the phone for them, now with remotes and cell phones we have kids for the software discounts and a vain hope they take care of us in our dotage. At least taking out the garbage and mowing the lawn ain’t much different… 😆 (wife and I each have a 22 yo…)
mrdnamrdnaParticipantApril 13, 2010 at 6:46 pmPost count: 220
MOST excellent, Andrea. Super-kudos to Maurizio! Will play with that. (Primary DB is getting huge and sprawling. Considering redoing the thing and starting by writing a full rule-set to automate most of the process. This will help ALOT!)
Don’t know how the append thing would be built in code, but I kind of envision it having 4 parts; 1 is adding tabbles to the current structure, 2 is adding the rules, 3 is adding the exclusions (probably not nescessary but…), and 4 adding the file entries. Adding the files would be adding them as tagged and not nescessarily attaching them to other tabbles as I’d imagine that would force a search process and I don’t know if that’s feasible.
best regards!mrdnaParticipantApril 13, 2010 at 8:01 amPost count: 220
Quickly wanted to outline something this brought to mind regarding structures and dbs. I seem to recall an old thread touching on this but it’s late… Anyways;
The ability to replace (how it currently works) or append structures and dbs. Basically you get the option to append/import rules, tabbles, and files in the case of dbs. Before anything is imported/appended/replaced a "Save db?" box pops. (box could be added now as there is no reminder warning you could be clearing your db…)mrdnaParticipantApril 13, 2010 at 7:41 amPost count: 220
Welcome aboard! I think I see where you’re going here, and taking Andrea’s response in mind; I don’t know the makeup of the folks you support, but from years in computer repair and having elderly parents using Tabbles also, many of the ideas here would certainly be a benefit to the older set.
1. Single click Tabbles (I normally use single click windows explorer)
I think Andrea’s correct here that an option is the answer. I also think it’s a damn good idea that better get on the to-do list. That said, the left-side tree is a single-clicker and may help in the interim.
4. Be able to apply subtraction automatically on certain extensions (i.e. temp files)
The first time I read this I thought "Saved combines!". Like bookmarks. An over-reading of it, to be sure, but a nice idea that I hope is on the todo list. Andrea’s correct tho that the rules panel should be able to cover that for you.
5. Create a more complete standard of tables for extensions.
mp3, mod, mid, wav, wma, ogg, mp4a should all be assigned an AUDIO/MUSIC tabble,
avi, ogm, mkv, wmv, mp4, mov, etc should all be assigned to VIDEO tabble
Common Microsoft docs should all be assigned to DOCUMENT tabble)
I know some users will want to create their own or alter the defaults but i find it frustrating to have to create these.
MANY MORE features desired as I will testing TABBLES pretty extensively to see if it would benefit non-power users.
Many of the users I support need all the help they can get just to find the file they saved recently.
I’ve spent hours with them showing them how to use folders but still they lose track of their precious files.
You can build the rules yourself, but yes, one rule per filetype. A pain in the butt and I would be sure to miss one.
This brings up 2 things I can see; OR functionality in the rules panel (mp4 OR mov > Video tabble. Could have 1 rule instead of bunches, perhaps), and importing structures.
We could build a structure with a rule set that assigned extension to the generic tabbles and that would be a great thing to use to create a Tabbles database, but it doesn’t help if you want to apply it to an existing db… The weakness with the way structures are handled is that importing replaces the structure in toto and clears the database. (a bad thing if you didnt backup the db…) The ability to append the rules/structure into an existing db would be incredibly useful.
Before I go wandering off into the weeds. Nice ideas and I think this general idea should be pursued mightily.mrdnaParticipantApril 6, 2010 at 5:34 amPost count: 220
Hope you don’t mind if I chime in here a bit. Have been around here a while and hopefully can give you a bit of insight, or at least another user’s experience.
First off, as far as releases go, full releases that hit the tabbles.net/download page are the releases that get pushed via Tabbles notification. (box that pops and says new ver available) The stuff that gets released here (most notably in the beta forum) are betas or are not quite ‘gold’. IOW not ready for prime time or they include a new function that needs to be tested real world before it goes live. There are a few of us here that gleefully do our best to rip apart the program and happily point to bugs and other problems for Maurizio to fix.
As far as changelogs go; as a veteran of in-dev software since the 80s I certainly agree they are important things and sometimes take the place of user manual updates, but it ain’t the equivalent by any means. Considering the differences between incrementals (x.y.z) are always very small or under-the-hood precision updates aren’t really that important as, say, an update for an X.Y release.
Quite honestly, as long as you keep an eye in the forums there should be no problem keeping up on changes…
And dude… "Changelog writer"? 😆 That guy is only available when Andrea puts on that hat (he said something about special underwear too, but let’s just leave it at ‘hat’) and considering you have basically 2 guys writing the software, the web site, a wiki, a dev blog, marketing like hell, doing email support, etc then you can see how some things just don’t make it high on the priority list. If you read back in the forums you’ll also see how there have been some major changes in code, interface, security, and philosophy. Oh, and they’re doing this all in something other than their native language. (I understand that counts for style points only, but what the heck.)
tbh, you’d likely get better feedback starting here in the forums. Think of it this way; An emailed critique is like a farmer with a pitchfork, a forum thread on a solid critique can make that into a village of farmers with both pitchforks AND torches. (Right, Andrea? 😉 )
Anyways, criticism is good and don’t stop, but do understand what you’re critiquing.mrdnaParticipantMarch 20, 2010 at 1:30 amPost count: 220
"minarg" wrote: Hello!
I can translate into Ukrainian and help with Russian (I saw a few untranslated strings in the last version).
Welcome aboard, minarg. 🙂
Have you figured out how to work with the files or do you have questions?
mrdnamrdnaParticipantMarch 12, 2010 at 4:06 amPost count: 220
It also works as an OR operator for the tabbles BTW which is incredibly useful to boil down an idea right from the search box.
I am surprised you find the OR for tabbles useful. the OR is there for historical reasons: to ease dragging on files onto a precise groups of tabbles. Once this was useful because you did not have the side panel. But now that you can drag from the file panel main body to the side panel, I did not see a use for the feature anymore, and I though this was confusing. However I won’t remove the feature.
Type in partial names of tabbles (EX: tabb, quic) highlight the tabbles, right click and combine!
I’m surprised you’re surprised. 🙂 In the desktop workspace I tend to pull the tabbles around into groups when working on an idea, using the comma OR ability allows a keyboard-centric guy like me to pull in and sift through tabble pretty simply in the file panel. While it’s disappointing the search box doesn’t work the same in the desktop workspace (can’t search inside the nested tabbles there it looks like) it’s fast as hell and accepts partial entries in the file panel.
Perhaps Maurizio can add the "Enter" key to combine/open tabbles? (would be very handy)
ENTER is not possible since it would create a collision when typing in the search box. I can however create an ALT+something shortcut.
Sorry, didn’t define it well enough possibly. Was thinking more of having the enter opening highlighted tabbles or files meaning the focus would be in the file panel on the tabbles and not in the search box. An alt-key that opened/combined highlighted tabbles/files without taking focus from the search box (or wherever focus is) would be ok I guess. I just find myself hitting Enter and expecting things to activate as they do in most windows programs and, as you well know, what activates depends on one knowing where focus is. Think of it as further windows standardization… 😉
I am glad you are starting to use nesting (to repeat, Tabbles is currently not usable without nesting, due to enormous memory usage due to many tabbles visible at once).
I have maybe 20% of my primary db’s tabbles nested at the moment (and that’s just between members of House, Senate, and Geographic Location!) though I’m trying to keep the nesting simple as possible initially considering the number of tabbles and files I’m working with could make for a nesting nightmare… And actually Tabbles -is- usable for me without nesting – but using the desktop workspace is really painful. The file panel display works pretty darn well though even with 5k files under 400 tabbles. A tad slow, but well enuff. I haven’t seen any real speed up as I’ve nested tabbles, but will keep an eye, there may be a break point. (I hope)
Anyways, thanks for the reply, Maurizio.mrdnaParticipantMarch 11, 2010 at 7:02 amPost count: 220
Tabbles is certainly running faster overall – the odd slowdowns do appear to be gone, RAM usage doesn’t spike so high (can only drive up mem use half as high now. 🙂 ), and if I’m reading it right it’s using the CPU alot better.
May have spoke too soon. Seeing heavy RAM and CPU use after a while – not much different really. Will keep an eye on it I guess.mrdnaParticipantMarch 9, 2010 at 11:41 pmPost count: 220
"steven_bs" wrote: Is there a way to start automatic categorization manually and is there an easier way to create the same automatic categorization rules for different file types?
Welcome to the forums!
At this point you can only manually run rules by right clicking on a folder and selecting the option from the menu there. Unsure exactly what you’re asking for in the second half of the sentence, but it sounds kinda like creating a rule template. Unfortunately that hasn’t made it in yet…
- is there a way to tag this files with only one rule
- the first file with Javascipt, HTML and XML
- the second file with XML
- if not, then why not?
As to the first question; No. As the rules now work since "Java" is part of both then it gets the rule applied.
As to the second question; Also no. You will need 3 rules to cover "Java", "HTML", and "XML". It will result in the results you want, but…
Currently the rules are fairly rudimentary (though useful as hell!) and I know there’s plenty of entries on Maurizio’s ToDo list to expand and enhance them, it’s just not high on the list at the moment.
FWIW, a few of the things I think we can look forward to when they have time to work on the rules;
– Directory definition (what dirs rules will ‘see’ and operate in)
– Useability of date and time (and maybe other metadata) in rule application
– Better manual rule application (per file, global run, etc)
– IF/THEN tagging. IF file has tabble A, THEN it gets tabble B
As I said, Maurizio has quite a lot in his ToDo tabble so don’t expect any of this stuff tomorrow, but do feel quite free to toss out and advocate for good ideas!mrdnaParticipantMarch 5, 2010 at 7:39 pmPost count: 220
"Andrea" wrote: Think of it this way: if you knew nothing about Tabbles, what would you be more interested in?
An integrated link/unlink/rename panel? But that’s just me… 😉
Not sure about the 2.0, it is quite a jump. 1.5 for the freemium ability certainly, but I’d figure a full 2.0 for when (if?) the graphical desktop gets usable again.mrdnaParticipantFebruary 28, 2010 at 10:06 pmPost count: 220
If you move or rename a file while Tabbles is running then Tabbles should see that and update the file correctly. If Tabbles ISN’T running then you end up with a shadow file. It’s possible to ‘re-find’ the file if it hasn’t been renamed, just moved (double-click on the shadow file and point it at the directory the file was moved into).