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- in reply to: How many files do you have in Tabbles? #1544
Little update:
Previously (on Battlestar Galactica
) we were thinking of releasing a version with a limit in the number of files the user could tag…Now we’re thinking of a version that counts the files in the db, and when the count reaches a certain value (let’s say 3000) it starts showing a nag-screen… the screen is showed every some minutes and possibly it comes out more often as the file count goes up. Tabbles will still be 100% usable, apart from the nag-screen. (yes, it’s the Winzip recipe)
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in reply to: How many files do you have in Tabbles? #1540hello bob,
thanks for your feedback, much appreciated,
"inf2know" wrote: Do not like being a Practicalist, but the request on how many files in Tabbles and the instructions on how to obtain the number indicate why the use of Tabbles MUST require freeware for some time. The learning curve (even for experienced people like me) is VERY STEEP, Here is a VERY Current example:
This topic begins with a "simple" request, How many files in Tabbles. BUT a small picture included and the instructions:
1) double click on the tabble "Tagged", the one with the Tabblee icon (in the picture…maybe it’s name is "used with Tabbles") 2) read the number in the top right."
Above indicates an small example of THE MAJOR learning curve challenge.Yes, we totally agree on this. Making a free-limited version is our next move.
"inf2know" wrote:
It is important to remember that almost ALL users and potential users of Tabbles (me included) have been raised on explorer or equivalent. Personally I use powerdesk + other utilities like treesize and windir to provide SIMPLE "management" of my files. The learning curve on these products was close to zero.The videos were a big help, but the user interface and simple information and intuitive navigation will be the key to user acceptance and THEN the $ will follow.
I have NO problem with a file limit (Maybe a folder limit would be better).
I like the limit idea but what is a Tabble definition of a file?If it includes the htm(s) and associated files in the folder then the number better be large. On the usability point, If I could define to tabbles (SIMPLY), a filter that says ONLY include the HTML file and not the subfolder and its files then the number would be MUCH smaller.
Ok, what is "large" for you? I mean: we need a number that is large enough not to discourage people but that would be a good needle to tell a casual users from one who is getting the best out of Tabbles.
"inf2know" wrote:
Related is the the following about a file called xxx.html and the related folder xxx(and its sub files).
IF I "move" the xxx.html FILE (not the folder) than the file is moved with its subfolder. If I rename xxx.html to bbb.html then the xxx folder is no longer associated with the html.it seems to me that this is a problem related to Explorer, isn’t it? This is a "smart" explorer behaviour, something it tries to do cause it "thinks" they’re part of a group… what is the implication for Tabbles?
"inf2know" wrote:
Hope this helps.
boblevy@inf2know.comI just ran TreeSize Free and it reports on the simple run that I have 249,289 in my downloaded software folder and
295,954 in my "critical" files folder.The problem with this "number" is that there are thousands of htm or similar type "files" that are associated with sub folders and there is a lot of "junk" inside.
For example a "file" called downloads.html (The Download Tabbles 1.3.8) page is 33,046 bytes, HOWEVER the "subfolder and associated files add 35 more files for an additional 362kb)
Yes, I know your problem. We’ll see if we can implement a a filter of some sort, but no promises here! 🙂
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in reply to: Tabbles 1.3.5 is out: please test! #1535Gentlemen,
the issue seemed to be related to our installer restarting Windows Explorer: this won’t happen anymore. I hope that this case is solved 🙂
cheers,
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in reply to: Tabbles 1.3.5 is out: please test! #1528@mrdna thanks for the feedback! We didn’t do a lot of work on optimizing the ram… we need to do it at some point… please keep posting info about it cause the more we know the better. FYI, I have Tabbles always open on WinXP and currently it’s eating 120MB (I have about 8K files in the db).
@inf2know OMG, this sounds like a mess… it’s a mistery how this could be related to the Tabbles installation… 😐
We didn’t hear this from anybody else…If I’m not asking too much, could you please try with the 1.3.8?thanks guys, your feedback is much appreciated!
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in reply to: Why I could not start Tabbles #1526Hello Andrizz,
try this: rename (or delete) the folder c:documents and settingsyour_userdocumentsTabbles
and afterwards try to launch Tabbles again… thanksin reply to: AUTO-DETACH a file from a tabble #1520Hello Rasty!
we covered the subject a bit before you joined the forum in this thread.
We agree that the feature is needed, but the thing is technically a bit challenging, therefore we’re postponing it a bit… but I guess it will happen sometimes in the next months.
Thanks,
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in reply to: Moved from getsatisfaction #1516we’re at 1.3.6 now, I assume this has been fixed 🙂
=== at least I hope so ===
in reply to: Moved from getsatisfaction #1515thanks a lot mrdna!
don’t be afraid of posting crashes on getsatisfaction.com… anyway I’ve forwarded this to Maurizio, just in case
in reply to: Tabbles 1.3.5 is out: please test! #1497@Nick are you sorting the files by last modified? That one is particularly slow and soon we’ll add a pop-up to warn you about this.
Also, is it slowing down before the files are being shown or while they’re being shown (and the files appear slowly…)?
If the first case is true, than the slow-down is connected to the sorting by date.
No, we’re not indexing the files, if we did we’d need to grow the db (and use more ram) or to read/write the db from a file (and this is would slow down badly…right now the whole db is alway loaded in memory and it’s written on the disk only to save/back-up.@mrdna what a keen eye! 😀 This is indeed a part of making the rules engine smarter. This trick (as far as I understand) is used because the engine is waiting for a couple of secs to see if the user renames the file: if the file is renamed within that time, only one pop-up comes up instead of 2 (one for the file with the original name and one for the file after being renamed) which might be perceived as bug. This is useful when you create a file/folder from the right-click menu and then you rename it straight away.
in reply to: Tabbles 1.3.5 is out: please test! #1495Hi Nick,
is this version slower than the previous one? The changes we introduced that may have slowed-down is the fact that now Tabbles reads date and size, and this requires some extra reading of the disk. Maurizio knew that this might have slow down a bit…
I’ll forward him this (he’s currently fighting to re-install Win7).
thanks! 🙂
in reply to: Multilanguage – Translation: what and howto #1492Nefycee: don’t worry, we’ll keep the forum open 🙂
We’re aware of the limitation of getsatisfaction. It’s cool for new users cause they don’t need to register, but for us (the original hardcore users) the forum is gonna be the place to bein reply to: Tabbles 1.3.5 is out: please test! #1491hello!
yes, we need to improve this… it’s one out of many little details that needs improvement 😀
thanks!
in reply to: searching for a filename? #1470great!
Hint: open the tabble called "tagged" (this one) and then type the filename in the search field 🙂
in reply to: How many files do you have in Tabbles? #1467sure mrdna, makes a lot of sense. Maurizio is thinking of weighing file types differently, I agree but I’d rather keep things on the easy side.
Me personally, I have some 25k pics, and the 5600 files I have tabbled are only related to Tabbles itself 😐
any more input would be highy appreciated! 😀
Thanks,
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in reply to: How many files do you have in Tabbles? #1462Thanks a lot mrdna!
I guess you’re currently the highest authority in terms of "how many files".
What we’re looking for is a limit that doesn’t discourage casual users and makes hardcore users want to purchase a license… therefore something around 5000 files sounds fair, isn’t it?
Maurizio is thinking about allowing max 5000 generic files or 1000 docs/pdf/xls + 4000 files… it does make sense actually as if you’re using Tabbles for docs, then 1000 is already a lot… what do you think? 🙂 - AuthorPosts