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- in reply to: Whoa! 1.1.5 took away view modes #1063
sorry mrdna, I had indeed missed your piece. Now I have read it, but I have to finish an urgent feature before I can reply. (which incidentally is the feature you are asking for 🙂 )
in reply to: Scalable Tabbles #1056You haven’t told me why you dislike different sizes.
However, I see no reason why it should be mandatory.
The way I envision it, the behavior will be the following: you can switch between two modes: tabbles-with-same-size and tabbles-with-different-sizes.
1. When you switch from same-size-mode to different-size-mode, some tabbles will become bigger, and some will stay as they are; no tabble will become smaller. At the same time, all tabbles will smoothly rearrange themselves not to overlap each other. (Some tabbles, becoming bigger, will push other tabbles away; these tabbles in turn will push other tabbles, so there will be a lot of movement on the screen.)
2. when you switch from different-size-mode to same-size-mode, some tabbles will shrink and some will stay as they are. So some holes will appear that were not present previously. These holes may be annoying to you. But, if you never switch to different-size-mode, you should never see this.
What do you think?
in reply to: Whoa! 1.1.5 took away view modes #1054Here is a new video of the upcoming auto-align feature.
in reply to: Whoa! 1.1.5 took away view modes #1053Hi Beaujean, thanks for the feedback.
> I really don’t like the change made in version 115 by removal of the ‘categories’ function. They made it so much easier to organise groups and families of Tabbles.
I am curious why you need to have groups and families of tabbles at all. Could you please elaborate on that? Could you make an example of a task which you need to do but is difficult or impossible to accomplish when you don’t have groups and families of tabbles?
> The new arrangement – having to move the Tabbles around manually is untidy and unnecessarily time-consuming. Especially, it is untidy as there is no grid alignment.
So, it seems you have two problems with the current solution: it is untidy and time consuming.
As for untidy: please notice that an auto-alignment feature (aka snapping to grid) is ready. A new release with this feature will be out soon. Stay tuned.
As for time-consuming: I admit I don’t see what you mean. It takes one minute to arrange 50 tabbles you already have, and you have to do it just once.
So, please wait until auto-alignment is ready, give it a try, and then come back and tell me if you are still unhappy about it, and why. I promise we’ll fix the problem.
> I don’t understand how new users could not grasp the concept of categories (the rationale given for removing that feature). What could be simpler than the concept of files -> Tabbles -> categories?
I suppose the short answer is that "files -> tabbles" is simpler than "files -> tabbles -> categories". The user was forced to learn a new concept (categories) even if he didn’t need it. For example, in order to create a tabble, you first had to create a category.
If I just want to create a tag, why should I have to give a "category" to my tag? Or, equivalently, why should I have to give a tag to my tag?
A longer reply is in this blog post.
> Could you at least bring the categories feature (as it was in version 114) back as an option? Without them, I don’t like the GUI nearly as much as before and it is not as intuitive or useful.
Bringing back categories has high costs (in terms of forgone users due to the increased complexity and barrier to entry, and maintenance costs). So, in order to reintroduce them, I need to see a very good reason, i.e. a practical scenario where you have a problem which categories help solving (and can’t be solved in a simpler way, like an auto-arrange-tabbles feature).
In general, a problem can have more than one solution. It might be that a problem which is solved with categories can be solved in a better way, without forcing every user to deal with a concept they don’t need.
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> I notice above that you have thought of grid arrangements but that it could be a problem when scaling. Well, it seems to me that the arrangement with categories as they were would allow ‘scaling’ within them?
I’m afraid I don’t understand what you mean here.
> Tabbles within tabbles – a sort of "super Tabble"? What is that but a category by another name?
This would be much different. Categories were very limited and very different from tabbles (see the above blog post).
in reply to: a few things… #1047Oh, so that’s what you mean. That is already in our TODO list with the name "tagging rules". (I call them rules because dragging a tabble T1 onto another tabble T2 is equivalent to creating a rule that says "if a file is in T1, then it must also be in T2".)
But, if that’s what you mean, then I see no relation with the removal of categories. I mean, why did you not need such a feature when you had categories, and now you do? What is it that you could do when you had categories and you cannot do now?
in reply to: a few things… #1045I think allowing us to put tabbles in tabbles is now crucial for usuability.
Interesting. Could you explain this better? What would you need that feature for?
in the meantime, auto-align is implemented. Watch a video here.
in reply to: Whoa! 1.1.5 took away view modes #1043I am also thinking that, in the future, we might allow to put tabbles inside other tabbles (in addition to files). _______For example, you may put tabble "Mary" into tabble "Friends"._____ Then we could enlarge tabbles which contain other tabbles. So "friends" would be larger than "mary". That might be a better criterion for deciding the size of tabbles.
This way tabbles would become a generalization of categories.
in reply to: Whoa! 1.1.5 took away view modes #1042You make me think that maybe the scaling must be done by hand, and not automatically… hmm…
in reply to: Whoa! 1.1.5 took away view modes #1040Hello again,
Let me stress that you can drag the tabbles in such a way as to replicate the arrangement you had with categories (and with more freedom.) This is not going to take forever, and you only have to do it once.
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You may object that tabbles are not aligned. Two answers:
1) I am planning to implement "snap to grid" . (if approved by my colleagues.)
2) However I am afraid it will not work well when we make tabbles scale automatically according to their files. (see the blog post about this)
I mean, all tabbles will have different sizes, so even after auto-aligning and snapping to the grid, it will not look good. What do you think?
in reply to: a few things… #1039Hello, welcome! Thanks for your feedback.
First of all let me point you to the blog, where we discuss future directions, we discuss your suggestions, we consider pros and cons of features. (But I see you have discovered it already).
Sparse replies:
* more drag&drop is planned.
* portability: Tabbles already works with removable devices, such as usb sticks. It even watches for moved files on the drives and updates tabbles accordingly. What else do you need?
* combine link and unlink to tabbles. Good idea. Notice this is only possible when you have selected one file. (if you have selected two files which have different tabbles, I wouldn’t know how to fill the dialog). It was already in the TODO, but with low priority. I’m increasing it.
* being able to reanme tabbles in the quick-open dialog? Maybe by right-clicking? Yes, that would be useful. I am adding it to the todo list.
* Custom category arrangement: I see you have read the blog and installed the new version, so you know there are no categories anymore. The reasons are explained in this blog post. 🙂
in reply to: Note function #1023What a coincidence. In this blog post I was talking about extending tabbles to contain "notes" (in addition to files and URIs). What you propose is different, since you are asking to add notes to files. I suppose this can be done, but what would this be useful for? Could you describe a practical scenarios where this would be necessary or very useful?
in reply to: Auto save DB in Background… #7323Autosaving has been there since 0.9.X I think.
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I assume your bug with the clipboard is fixed.
If you are still unable to open the tabbles in "meta-tabbles" category, please let us know, and with time we’ll find a fix which doesn’t involve resetting your database.
The changelog for 1.1.0 and 1.1.1 is available.
Thank you! 😀
in reply to: Auto save DB in Background… #7319Thanks. The DB is saved every 5 minutes. If Tabbles crashes, you only loose changes made in the last 5 minutes tops. Does this feature not seem working to you, or do you think this is not enough?
in reply to: Subversion client support… #7297Thank you, we will investigate about that.
The change log is finally online here http://tabblesold.net/en/support/recent-changes.html.
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