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JohnParticipantOctober 4, 2009 at 3:30 amPost count: 19
1) What is wrong with using colours. There is nothing "wrong" with using colours, works fine, it is just a slightly different system. But I prefered the catogories, because I could open and close them to have the tabbles I wish to work on in the screen and everything else instantly set aside. I liked the boundary around the different catogories. I liked folders and subfloders automatically being assigned to a catogery.
2) Meant to say my tables lost their old categories i.e. as far as I can see Version 1.1.7 does not have categories in it and the old ones no longer exist.
3) My desire to have hierarchical categories is probably because I have not yet got around to adding all tags to my files. Having given it great consideration I see no need for a hierarchical categories providing all files are fully taget. What I am doing is establishing a classification simmilar to the structure of my folder hierarchial system on the hard disc (which I have developed over 20 years) and then moving to the multiveriable tabbles classification, which I see as the easy way of converting.
4) My use of tabbles is in a great state of flux at present I have 15 colours. But am regrouping these and deleting some and adding new as I see advantages in Tabbles compared to my old totally hierarchical ystem. Also I have 8 major file groupings in my folder system. I have only added 3 fo these to tabbles so far. I can see that for it to replace my present system it will be very complex. Perhaps I am trying to use tabbles for too much.JohnParticipantOctober 3, 2009 at 12:19 amPost count: 19
hi John, 🙂
the latest version is 1.1.7
Use Misc->Other Options->Check for a new version of tabbles
Sorry I did not make myself clear.
I am running Tabbles Version 1.1.7.
If I go to through the menu MISC—> OTHER OPTIONS —> TABBLES USER MANUAL
it opens up the user manual for version 0.9 Beta.
Is there a more recent user manual and if so how do I download and install it?
JohnJohnParticipantOctober 2, 2009 at 6:09 amPost count: 19
"Andrea" wrote: John,
did you try the 1.1.7? We believe that categories are back and better than before.
Is the current solution acceptable for you? If not, how can we improve it?
thanks for letting us know,
Nefycee: you’re the best! 🙂
Andrea I have just upgraded to 1.1.7 After a few weeks awy from the computer I can not see any Categories there and in updating my files lost my old categories.
My liking of Categories is purely because I like to minimize the number of choices on the first screen. I like to drill down to where I am going not gallop about the screen to a location (I am a biological taxonomist so adapted to choices of yes or no). You may have a better way of doing things but I do not wish to addapt.
JohnJohnParticipantOctober 1, 2009 at 10:49 pmPost count: 19
"Maurizio" wrote: Hi, I’m coding this right-now, as explained in this blog post. I expect it to be ready on monday.
I feel that the removal of the catogories has greatly reduced the usability of the program.
The ability to store and retrieve large amounts of information requires that we can group these into easly recognised clusters. For your programme to be of use in storing large numbers of files in many folders we need to be able to rapidly drill down through the groupings to get to what we want. Why your program is useful is that we can have files stored in multiple groups and approach it from different directions.
Having removed the "catogories" you have limited us a two dimensional layout with things just lumped on colour. A very primitive system which would only be of use for a limited number of files. As I am partially colour blind this is probably more restrictive in my case then others. But probably starts to become unmanagable sith about 1000 items (i.e. folders).
I would like to see catogories bought back as soon as possible and consideration be given for the inclusion of subcatogories, to provide aditioal options for classifing my files.
JohnJohnParticipantAugust 22, 2009 at 2:13 amPost count: 19
"Maurizio" wrote: could you tell us what these products are? We may get some more ideas by examining them.
The product I purchased and thought at first was fantastic was Topicscape. The user interface is very good for sorting and relocating files. Though there is a lot of work in getting the groupings and maintaining file lists. I am fidding Tabbles is much more usable.
Other programs link items that can be tagged to files, which I guess is more or less what Tabbles does but you work with the items not the files.
I purchased and mainly rely on Biblioscape which allows you to link bibliographic information to the files . It allows these to be tagged and also to have "vurtual folders" for files belonging to multiple copies. Twice in about five years I have had the tag information become currupted, which leaves me not wanting to rely on the tagging in this program.
The other program I use is Swift To-Do List allows files to be linked to items and these can then be sorted and aranged. Not Comparable to Tabbles, but I would like you to think about adding a to-do list window to Tabbles.JohnParticipantAugust 21, 2009 at 12:40 amPost count: 19
"Andrea" wrote: you can already sort the files in different ways, you can access it by clicking on the triangle on the file panel:
did you find this out already? Are you sure that a random sorting is what you need?
Yes I had found that.
I do not need the random file sort but I would like it.
At present I have established a tabble based on a basic category and am now subdividing these I have tabbles that contain hundreds of files. I do not wish to have my working on the files biased by only having those files starting with ABC processed or those that have only recently been added or those that were added a long time ago. I would prefer to work through the files randomly.
The way I am working is that I have a Tabble eg "Blue" with files related to one category and another table "Not Processed"
I have a display of files with the tabbles "Blue" & "Not Processed" displayed I then take a file and process it, then remove the link to "Not Processed". I was finding that by scrolling down and selecting the files randomly when the screen refreshed after removing the link to "Not Processed" I was back at the top of the list. I would then have to return to the approximate place I was at, which I found annoying. This is agrevated because I find scrolling in Tabbles "kludge" though greatly improved from the first version I was using.
I envision that I will often be setting up Tabbles with a large number of files I wish to process in the future and repeating this excerise and it would be nice to think that I can select files randomly.JohnParticipantAugust 21, 2009 at 12:03 amPost count: 19
Thanks John. You mean to add an item "unlink this tabble from this file" to the tabble option menu? That’s reasonable. Actually I had thought of it, but then I thought, "how often do you need to unlink something"?
Yes that is what I was requesting.
I would use it frequently at the present stage as I have imported a lot of files into a few basic categories based on the subdirectories they were in and am now now refining this by assigining them to additional Tabbles and also frequently removing them from the basic categories.
Also what I do with photos where I use tagging a lot and intend doing here is to have tags which indicates the status of my processing the file. There will be a few of these and I expect to be frequently changing and updating them.
Therefore for me there will be a set of tags that will be more or less permanent that will group my work and allow me to look at files in similar topics and anouther set of tags that will be frequently changing that will allow me to find the files I need to work on today, those that I wish work on at some stage in the near future, those I need to review and decide what to do with etc. For these second group it would be good to be easily able to reasign them.
I have tried three other programs that do similar things to Tabbles and purchased one. I find Tabbles much better to use. Thanks very much for developing it and I wish you all the best for the future.