Wow! 1.5.0 2012-07-05T05:44:25+00:00

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  • mrdna
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    Grabbed the setup this morning and have been playing with it for the last 5 hours. Checked the changelog too and see this is a pretty serious update!

    Tabbles is certainly running faster overall – the odd slowdowns do appear to be gone, RAM usage doesn’t spike so high (can only drive up mem use half as high now. 🙂 ), and if I’m reading it right it’s using the CPU alot better.

    I’ve always been a fan of the global search box for it’s speed, but with the simple inclusion of a comma (for AND file searching) I now worship it. It also works as an OR operator for the tabbles BTW which is incredibly useful to boil down an idea right from the search box. Type in partial names of tabbles (EX: tabb, quic) highlight the tabbles, right click and combine! Perhaps Maurizio can add the "Enter" key to combine/open tabbles? (would be very handy)

    The browser button has been a huge feature as well! (absolutely love it!) Any way to get auto-tagging rules to run on internet addresses? Either as it’s added via the button or perhaps a global rules run on them? Nice that it won’t let you add the url more than once, but rather than just say "Oh no you don’t unless you break the address" perhaps the box could show the saved url’s tags and offer tag, untag, and bookmark rename buttons?

    Definitely like the ability to create a rule when you create a new tabble. Speaking of rules… Could you add a "recently tagged" history box (like the auto-tagged history box)? Would be useful to quickly find newly added files/urls that I forgot to add a tag to (or realized needed a new tag or …). Currently have to go via tools>advanced>all tagged files (or click on "tagged" in my favorites. 🙂 Nice feature, favorites), sort by recently tagged, and scroll down past the tabbles to the files. Just a thought for convenience.

    Oh! And did I mention VERTICAL SCROLLING?!!!
    My most heartfelt, humble, demure, deferential, unpretentious, and reverential thanks. 🙂

    FWIW, been working with the tree and child/sub-tabbles and really starting to warm to how the file panel works and how I can use it to try and tame the huge number of tabbles and files I have in my primary DB. Not ready to throw out the workspace yet, but am seeing some great strides in it’s usefulness.

    Anyways — Well done! Good release here guys! :mrgreen:

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  • nefycee
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    I’ve always been a fan of the global search box for it’s speed, but with the simple inclusion of a comma (for AND file searching) I now worship it. It also works as an OR operator for the tabbles BTW which is incredibly useful to boil down an idea right from the search box. Type in partial names of tabbles (EX: tabb, quic) highlight the tabbles, right click and combine! Perhaps Maurizio can add the "Enter" key to combine/open tabbles? (would be very handy)

    I agree^^
    This ist really cool. Also the possibility to exclude by using "-" sign
    I would have only one question.

    I have a lot of tabbles called "ABC" and "ABC-XX" for example
    When I search for "AB" both appear, but I can’t exclude "ABC-XX" by writing "AB, -XX"
    Is it possible to fix this? Does it make sense?

  • mrdna
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    "mrdna" wrote:
    Tabbles is certainly running faster overall – the odd slowdowns do appear to be gone, RAM usage doesn’t spike so high (can only drive up mem use half as high now. 🙂 ), and if I’m reading it right it’s using the CPU alot better.

    May have spoke too soon. Seeing heavy RAM and CPU use after a while – not much different really. Will keep an eye on it I guess.

  • Maurizio
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    @mrdna

    Thanks for the comments.

    Tabbles is certainly running faster overall – the odd slowdowns do appear to be gone

    It’s true that the permanent hang (the one from which Tabbles would not recover) is gone. However, as you note later, much remains to be done.

    I suspect the remaining hangs and slowdowns are due to a wrong usage of threads on my side. I am trying to rewrite that part.

    It also works as an OR operator for the tabbles BTW which is incredibly useful to boil down an idea right from the search box.

    I am surprised you find the OR for tabbles useful. the OR is there for historical reasons: to ease dragging on files onto a precise groups of tabbles. Once this was useful because you did not have the side panel. But now that you can drag from the file panel main body to the side panel, I did not see a use for the feature anymore, and I though this was confusing. However I won’t remove the feature.

    Type in partial names of tabbles (EX: tabb, quic) highlight the tabbles, right click and combine!

    I see.

    Perhaps Maurizio can add the "Enter" key to combine/open tabbles? (would be very handy)

    ENTER is not possible since it would create a collision when typing in the search box. I can however create an ALT+something shortcut.

    The browser button has been a huge feature as well! (absolutely love it!) Any way to get auto-tagging rules to run on internet addresses?

    A rule matching what? Part of the url name?

    Anyway this is a fair amount of work, I cannot afford to do it now. 😐

    Nice that it won’t let you add the url more than once, but rather than just say "Oh no you don’t unless you break the address" perhaps the box could show the saved url’s tags and offer tag, untag, and bookmark rename buttons?

    This is in the TODO list, but is surprisingly not easy.

    Definitely like the ability to create a rule when you create a new tabble.

    I am glad you do.

    Speaking of rules… Could you add a "recently tagged" history box (like the auto-tagged history box)? Would be useful to quickly find newly added files/urls that I forgot to add a tag to (or realized needed a new tag or …). Currently I have to go via tools>advanced>all tagged files (or click on "tagged" in my favorites. 🙂 Nice feature, favorites),

    I can’t afford that feature right now. As you say, this is already possible with the "tagged" tabble. See below.

    sort by recently tagged,

    Actually, if you use the tools menu, sorting is not necessary. Files are automatically sorted by recent_tagging_date. But you are right that this does not hold when you click "tagged" in favorites.

    What I can do is add a shortcut for displaying the tagged tabble, already sorted.

    The only problem that would remain is that you would still have to scroll down past the tabbles list to see the files. But this problem is only due to the fact that you don’t use tabbles nesting, so you have lots of toplevel tabbles. 👿 Since Tabbles is not usable in that case anyway (takes a lot of RAM), it does not make economic sense to work on that right now.

    FWIW, been working with the tree and child/sub-tabbles and really starting to warm to how the file panel works and how I can use it to try and tame the huge number of tabbles and files I have in my primary DB. Not ready to throw out the workspace yet, but am seeing some great strides in it’s usefulness.

    I am glad you are starting to use nesting (to repeat, Tabbles is currently not usable without nesting, due to enormous memory usage due to many tabbles visible at once).

    Cheers 😉

  • Maurizio
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    I have a lot of tabbles called "ABC" and "ABC-XX" for example
    When I search for "AB" both appear, but I can’t exclude "ABC-XX" by writing "AB, -XX"
    Is it possible to fix this? Does it make sense?

    Yes, it’s possible and cheap. Will be there in the next version.

  • mrdna
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    "Maurizio" wrote:

    It also works as an OR operator for the tabbles BTW which is incredibly useful to boil down an idea right from the search box.

    I am surprised you find the OR for tabbles useful. the OR is there for historical reasons: to ease dragging on files onto a precise groups of tabbles. Once this was useful because you did not have the side panel. But now that you can drag from the file panel main body to the side panel, I did not see a use for the feature anymore, and I though this was confusing. However I won’t remove the feature.

    Type in partial names of tabbles (EX: tabb, quic) highlight the tabbles, right click and combine!

    I see.

    I’m surprised you’re surprised. 🙂 In the desktop workspace I tend to pull the tabbles around into groups when working on an idea, using the comma OR ability allows a keyboard-centric guy like me to pull in and sift through tabble pretty simply in the file panel. While it’s disappointing the search box doesn’t work the same in the desktop workspace (can’t search inside the nested tabbles there it looks like) it’s fast as hell and accepts partial entries in the file panel.

    "Maurizio" wrote:

    Perhaps Maurizio can add the "Enter" key to combine/open tabbles? (would be very handy)

    ENTER is not possible since it would create a collision when typing in the search box. I can however create an ALT+something shortcut.

    Sorry, didn’t define it well enough possibly. Was thinking more of having the enter opening highlighted tabbles or files meaning the focus would be in the file panel on the tabbles and not in the search box. An alt-key that opened/combined highlighted tabbles/files without taking focus from the search box (or wherever focus is) would be ok I guess. I just find myself hitting Enter and expecting things to activate as they do in most windows programs and, as you well know, what activates depends on one knowing where focus is. Think of it as further windows standardization… 😉

    "Maurizio" wrote:
    I am glad you are starting to use nesting (to repeat, Tabbles is currently not usable without nesting, due to enormous memory usage due to many tabbles visible at once).
    Cheers 😉

    I have maybe 20% of my primary db’s tabbles nested at the moment (and that’s just between members of House, Senate, and Geographic Location!) though I’m trying to keep the nesting simple as possible initially considering the number of tabbles and files I’m working with could make for a nesting nightmare… And actually Tabbles -is- usable for me without nesting – but using the desktop workspace is really painful. The file panel display works pretty darn well though even with 5k files under 400 tabbles. A tad slow, but well enuff. I haven’t seen any real speed up as I’ve nested tabbles, but will keep an eye, there may be a break point. (I hope)

    Anyways, thanks for the reply, Maurizio.

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